AN OUR KIDS REPORT:Miss Edgar's & Miss Cramp's School vs. Alcuin College

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  • SCHOOL LOCATION

    Distance From

    Map

    Address

    Address

    525 Mount Pleasant Avenue, Westmount, Quebec, H3Y 3H6, Canada

    200-1046 St Georges Avenue, North Vancouver, British Columbia, V7L 3H6, Canada

  • SCHOOL OVERVIEW

    Basics

    Basics

    Founded

    1909

    2012

    Enrolment

    295

    118

    Grades

    K to 11

    K to 12

    Gender

    Girls

    Coed

    Living arrangements

    Day

    Day

    Language of instruction

    English, French

    English

    Faith Based

    School focus

    Academic

    Academic

    Developmental Priorities

    Balanced
    Equal emphasis is placed on a balance of priorities: intellectual, emotional, social and physical cultivation.
    Balanced
    Equal emphasis is placed on a balance of priorities: intellectual, emotional, social and physical cultivation.
    Intellectual
    The goal is to cultivate "academically strong, creative and critical thinkers, capable of exercising rationality, apprehending truth, and making aesthetic distinctions."

    Academics

    Academics

    Curriculum

    Progressive

    Liberal Arts

    Curriculum pace

    Accelerated
    The main curriculum accelerates beyond the pace of the provincial one; ALL students do the work of OLDER public-school peers in tangible and measurable ways. This accelerated pace is maintained by the teachers and school, (through textbook selection, topic selection, grading, assignment standards and expectations, etc).
    Standard-enriched
    Broadly-speaking, the main curriculum -- like that of most schools -- paces the provincially-outlined one. This pace is steady and set by the teachers and school. The curriculum might still be enriched in various ways: covering topics more in-depth and with more vigor than the provincial one, or covering a broader selection of topics.

    Academic culture

    Rigorous
    A school with a “rigorous” academic culture places a high value on academic performance, and expects their students to do the same. This does not mean the school is uncaring, unsupportive, or non-responsive -- far from it. A school can have a rigorous academic culture and still provide excellent individual support. It does mean, however, the school places a particular emphasis on performance -- seeking the best students and challenging them to the fullest extent -- relative to a normal baseline. High expectations and standards – and a challenging yet rewarding curriculum – are the common themes here. Keep in mind this classification is more relevant for the older grades: few Kindergarten classrooms, for example, would be called “rigorous”.
    Supportive
    A school with a “supportive” academic culture focuses more on process than short-term outcomes: academic performance is a welcomed side-benefit, but not the driving focus. This does not mean the school lacks standards, or has low expectations for its students: a school can have a supportive academic culture and still light the fire of ambition in its students. It does mean, however, the school provides a less intensive culture than schools with a “rigorous” academic classification, and is focused more simply on instilling a love of learning and life-long curiosity.

    Avg. Class Size

    12 to 20

    8 to 12

    Special needs support

    Gifted learner support

    In-class adaptations

    In-class adaptations

    Preschool/K curriculum

    Play-based
    Play-based programs are the most common type of preschool and Kindergarten, and are founded on the belief young children learn best through play. Largely open-ended and minimally structured, play-based programs aim to develop social skills and a love of attending school. “Pre-academic” skills are taught, but in a more indirect way than at, say, an Academic program: through children playing in different “stations” set up around the classroom, which children choose on their own volition. Stations often contain an indirect lesson or developmental goal. Play-based classrooms are highly social and active.
    Play-based
    Play-based programs are the most common type of preschool and Kindergarten, and are founded on the belief young children learn best through play. Largely open-ended and minimally structured, play-based programs aim to develop social skills and a love of attending school. “Pre-academic” skills are taught, but in a more indirect way than at, say, an Academic program: through children playing in different “stations” set up around the classroom, which children choose on their own volition. Stations often contain an indirect lesson or developmental goal. Play-based classrooms are highly social and active.

    Tuition

    Tuition

    Day Tuition

    $21,800 to $26,380

    $20,000

    Boarding Tuition

    Financial aid (FA)

    Yes

    No

    Students on FA

    15%

    0%

    Eligible grades for FA

    6 to 11

    None

    Median FA package size

    $5,000

    $0

    Enrollment

    Enrollment

    Avg. enrollment per grade

    25

    9

    Percent in boarding

    0%

    0%

    Admissions

    Admissions

    Admissions rate

    60%

    0%

    Day entry years

    K, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

    Boarding entry years

    Day admissions deadline

    Rolling

    Not available

    Boarding admissions deadline

    Not available

    Not available

    Interview required?

    Yes: grades K - 11

    Yes: grades K - 12

    SSAT required

    No

    No

    English Language Eligibility Certificate Required

    Yes: grades 7 - 11

    No

  • OUR PERSPECTIVE

    The Our Kids Review

    The Our Kids Review

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    “[ECS] was founded in 1909 by Maud Edgar and Mary Cramp, two trailblazing educators who were determined to open a school—not just any school, mind you, but one that would advance the cause of gender rights and equality. … [and] believing to their core that the school would play a role in quite literally changing the world.” “While the strength of the academic programs is understandably a principal draw, the thing that sets schools apart is their moral ecologies: the values and expectations they prioritize, and the ways of being they demand of the students who participate within them.” “The administration isn’t prone to resting on laurels, but instead consistently reviews best practices and builds new programs to meet the evolving needs of the student population.”
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    ALCUIN COLLEGE

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    Our Take

    Our Take

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Miss Edgar's & Miss Cramp's School was founded in 1909 by Maud Edgar and Mary Cramp, two trailblazing educators. Although still not allowed to own the property that housed their school, or even to vote, Miss Edgar and Miss Cramp were determined to create educational opportunity for young women, to change their place in the world. Those roots in activism and leadership—and the desire to do things better, and more equitably—remain at the school today. The strength of the academic program is a principle draw, though the values, very rightly, are as well. The school has built itself around an ethos of achievement, providing opportunities for authentic engagement with the curriculum and substantial interaction with like-minded peers and mentors. The ideal student is one who shares that vision, and who has the interest and the drive to play an active role in a changing world.  

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    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    Alcuin College was founded in 2012 in the understanding that learning begins with a relationship between student and teacher, and flourishes within a community of learners. The goal is to begin with all the things that students bring with them into the classroom—the curiosities, the concerns—and to use them as the basis for aspirations—to learn, to grow, and connect with others. As much as possible, instruction is tutorial, bringing students together in small groups around specific tasks or inquiries. Teachers are hired for both their experience in the classroom as well as in the community, which adds a nice dimension to the life of the school, in that learning is taken beyond the walls of the school itself. The curriculum is challenging, though the support is as well, ensuring that students remain on task and engaged.

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  • School’s perspective

    Who are you, as a school?

    Who are you, as a school?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    "Miss Edgar’s and Miss Cramp’s is small in size and big in ideas. An innovative girls’ school founded by female mavericks in 1909, ECS values and stewards each girl’s distinct journey. We offer an engaging and exceptional education to thrive in an ever changing world. At ECS, she will feel a sense of belonging and receive individualized attention giving her ownership over her learning process. By fostering an entrepreneurial mindset, each girl is empowered to create her own future and become a global citizen."

    • Early French Immersion (K to 5)
    • Francais Langue d'enseignement (Grades 6 to 11)
    • Comprehensive athletics programs
    • Varied co-curricular activities and clubs
    • Academic excellence/college prep
    • Leadership development program
    • Middle and Senior school laptop program
    • Entrepreneurial Platform (K to Grade 11)
    • Advanced Placement courses (Grade 11)
    • Bilingual Programme - French/English (Grades 3 to 8)

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    "Alcuin College is a progressive, independent K-12 school rooted in curiosity-led learning. We specialize in providing an innovative, hands-on education based on the Liberal Arts. As an independent school on Vancouver’s North Shore, Alcuin attracts students who are coping in their current schools, but are not necessarily thriving, or who are uninspired. Our very small class sizes ensure personal attention, and our challenging curriculum is enriched by the resources and expertise available in our local community."

    • The unique relationship between student and teacher is central to successful learning at Alcuin
    • The diverse characteristics, strengths, and challenges of each child matter
    • Our intimate setting allows students to feel safe, accepted, and respected
    • We ensure smaller tutorial groups of students, under the expert guidance of a master teacher
    • We offer a rich, rigorous, and personalized education that fosters creativity and achievement
    • A hands-on approach allows students to investigate their world and take charge of their learning
    • Our inquiry approach allows student to explore topics that are of personal interest
    • Students develop analytic and creative skills, and are challenged to think critically and to reflect
    • Our K-2 program offers a full day of outdoor exploration each week
    • We are a community; students, teachers and parents are partners in learning

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    What do you do differently and uniquely well?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    "ECS is committed to redefining the status quo in education with a strong academic offering and through our innovative Entrepreneurial Platform (EP). Collaborative in spirit, this Platform fosters an entrepreneurial mindset which is opportunity-seeking, persistent, and resourceful. Through the iterative process, they learn to reframe problems as opportunities as well as express and execute their strategies with clarity."

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    "Personal attention is key. We seek out the interests of each child and adjust learning experiences to suit individual needs. For our senior scholars, we tailor elective courses to encourage passions and meet long-term goals. Your will find our students off-site frequently, interacting with the community and learning from the real world. We explore a variety of inspiring destinations to engage the children intellectually, emotionally, and physically. Alcuin is a safe place for students to learn a"

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    What tradeoffs has your school made to serve families in this way?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Information not available

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

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    Array

    What key junctures in your school's history have most shaped its present?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Information not available

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

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    Array

    What type of student is a good fit for your school?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Information not available

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

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    Array

    Under what conditions would you advise a family against choosing your school?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Information not available

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    Information not available

    Array

    To your knowledge, why do families choose your school over others?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    "ECS offers an environment where all students have access to opportunities to thrive, grow, and reach their full potential. Guided by our vision and mission, we strive to mentor each girl on her distinct journey. Small class sizes, strong academics and a vibrant co-curricular programme are just a few ways that we inspire students as they pursue their academic and discover their passions."

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    "Families choose Alcuin for our small class sizes, personal attention and our caring community."

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    How would you characterize your school's image amongst the public?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Information not available

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

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    What aspect of your school is underappreciated?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    "Our Co-curricular and Athletics programmes are exceptional. Students experience life outside of school though trips, special events and guest speakers who touch upon many social issues. From sport tournaments to field trips they get to experience the world in a safe and nurturing environment with our wonderful staff. Student Life at ECS provides opportunities beyond the classroom, that build leadership skills, self and global awareness, and independence."

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    Information not available

    Array

    What might families find surprising about your school?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    "ECS is a home away from home. Students love their school and they are nurtured by a dedicated teaching team and surrounded by a caring student body that spans Kindergarten to Grade 11. Students not only find peers within their class but also through special school activities and events throughout the school year. Students at ECS are part of a sisterhood that lasts beyond their school years and carries them into the future."

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

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    What improvements or changes has your school made recently?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Information not available

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    Information not available

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    How will your school change in the next 5 years?

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Information not available

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    Information not available

  • ACADEMICS

    • OVERALL CURRICULUM


      Primary Curriculum

      Primary Curriculum

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Progressive

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Liberal Arts


      Secondary Curriculum

      Secondary Curriculum

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Information not available

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Information not available


      Our Take: primary curriculum type

      Our Take: primary curriculum type

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Progressive (sometimes called "in- quiry-based") curricula attempt to place children's interests and ideas at the heart of the learning experience. Instead of lessons being driven by predetermined pathways, progressive curricula are often "emergent", with learning activities shaped by students' questions about the world. Instead of starting with academic concepts and then tying it to everyday experience, progressive methods begin with everyday experience and work back to an academic lesson. Teachers provide materials, experiences, tools and resources to help students investigate a topic or issue. Students are encouraged to explore, reflect on their findings, and discuss answers or solutions.

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Liberal Arts curricula share with traditional programs their emphasis on core knowledge-acquisition, but tend to borrow more best practices from the progressive approach. A Liberal Arts program might still feature group work and projects, for example, contrary to the more singular emphasis on tests and essays at a Traditional program.


      Our Take: secondary curriculum type

      Our Take: secondary curriculum type

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Not applicable

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Not applicable


      What the school says about their curriculum

      What the school says about their curriculum

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      From Kindergarten through Grade 11 we are committed to engaging students in the rich process of inquiry, asking questions and defining problems, designing methods of investigation, analyzing and interpreting data, communicating findings, and reflecting on the experience. This process is relevant no matter the learner’s age or the subject at hand. Please see our website for more information: www.ecs.qc.ca.

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Alcuin College was founded upon the desire for a successful model of education that focuses on the long-term growth and development of the student. We want our children to become true life-long learners, striving to be the best that they can be, inspired by teachers, parents and experts who themselves are scholars. Through our inquiry approach, students are actively engaged in the learning process and develop an understanding of themselves as learners and as citizens of a community. Our approach encourages students to take charge of their learning and offers opportunities for them to expand their capacity to think, create and innovate, and construct meaning about the world. Smaller tutorial groups of students, under the personal and expert guidance of a master teacher, develop analytic and creative skills and are challenged to think critically, to reflect, to speak and to write with logic and concision. The unique and fundamental relationship between student and teacher is central to successful learning.

    • PRESCHOOL/K CURRICULUM


      Approach

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Play-based


      Our Take

      Our Take

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Play-based programs are the most common type of preschool and Kindergarten, and are founded on the belief young children learn best through play. Largely open-ended and minimally structured, play-based programs aim to develop social skills and a love of attending school. “Pre-academic” skills are taught, but in a more indirect way than at, say, an Academic program: through children playing in different “stations” set up around the classroom, which children choose on their own volition. Stations often contain an indirect lesson or developmental goal. Play-based classrooms are highly social and active.

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Play-based programs are the most common type of preschool and Kindergarten, and are founded on the belief young children learn best through play. Largely open-ended and minimally structured, play-based programs aim to develop social skills and a love of attending school. “Pre-academic” skills are taught, but in a more indirect way than at, say, an Academic program: through children playing in different “stations” set up around the classroom, which children choose on their own volition. Stations often contain an indirect lesson or developmental goal. Play-based classrooms are highly social and active.


      What the school says

      What the school says

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Please see our website at ecs.qc.ca for more information

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      We offer a rich, personalised programme that engages students through inquiry as they build their foundational literacy and numeracy skills. Our Kindergarten is a full-day, play-based programme, where students spend one day of the week actively exploring the outdoors, discovering new information about their world, and developing their language and thinking skills, their social and emotional skills, and their self-awareness. Our Grade 1-2 programme builds on foundational literacy and numeracy skills and offers students the opportunity to engage in explorations that encourage critical and creative thinking and allows them to explore their interests and discoveries as they develop their skills. Students in Grade 1-3 continue to spend one day of the week actively exploring the outdoors.

    • CURRICULUM PACE


      Pace

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Standard-enriched


      Our Take

      Our Take

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      The main curriculum accelerates beyond the pace of the provincial one; ALL students do the work of OLDER public-school peers in tangible and measurable ways. This accelerated pace is maintained by the teachers and school, (through textbook selection, topic selection, grading, assignment standards and expectations, etc).

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Broadly-speaking, the main curriculum -- like that of most schools -- paces the provincially-outlined one. This pace is steady and set by the teachers and school. The curriculum might still be enriched in various ways: covering topics more in-depth and with more vigor than the provincial one, or covering a broader selection of topics.


      What the school says

      What the school says

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Information not available

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Information not available

    • ACADEMIC CULTURE


      Culture

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Supportive


      Our Take

      Our Take

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      A school with a “rigorous” academic culture places a high value on academic performance, and expects their students to do the same. This does not mean the school is uncaring, unsupportive, or non-responsive -- far from it. A school can have a rigorous academic culture and still provide excellent individual support. It does mean, however, the school places a particular emphasis on performance -- seeking the best students and challenging them to the fullest extent -- relative to a normal baseline. High expectations and standards – and a challenging yet rewarding curriculum – are the common themes here. Keep in mind this classification is more relevant for the older grades: few Kindergarten classrooms, for example, would be called “rigorous”.

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      A school with a “supportive” academic culture focuses more on process than short-term outcomes: academic performance is a welcomed side-benefit, but not the driving focus. This does not mean the school lacks standards, or has low expectations for its students: a school can have a supportive academic culture and still light the fire of ambition in its students. It does mean, however, the school provides a less intensive culture than schools with a “rigorous” academic classification, and is focused more simply on instilling a love of learning and life-long curiosity.


      What the school says

      What the school says

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Information not available

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Information not available


      Approach to student honours

      Approach to student honours

      MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

      Information not available

      ALCUIN COLLEGE

      Information not available

  • EXTRACURRICULARS

    Competitive

    Comp.

    Recreational

    Rec.

    Competitive

    Comp.

    Recreational

    Rec.

    Badminton

    Baseball

    Basketball

    Canoeing/Kayaking

    Cricket

    Cross-country skiing

    Cycling

    Downhill skiing

    Equestrian

    Fencing

    Field Hockey

    Figure Skating

    Football

    Golf

    Gymnastics

    Ice Hockey

    Ice Skating

    Lacrosse

    Martial Arts

    Mountain biking

    Racquet Ball

    Rowing

    Rugby

    Running

    Sailing

    Skateboarding

    Snowboarding

    Soccer

    Softball

    Squash

    Swimming

    Tennis

    Track & Field

    Volleyball

    Weightlifting

    Wrestling

    Archery

    Curling

    Ultimate


    Clubs Offered

    Clubs offered

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Ballet and Classical Ballet
    Yoga
    Yearbook
    Student Council
    Scouting
    Science Club
    School newspaper
    Round Square
    Robotics club
    Radio club
    Poetry/Literature club
    Photography
    Paintball
    Outdoor Education
    Outdoor Club
    Online Magazine
    Musical theatre/Opera
    Math Club
    Jazz Ensemble
    Habitat for Humanity
    Foreign Language Club
    Environmental Club
    Drama Club
    Debate Club
    Dance Club
    Computer Club
    Community Service
    Choir
    Chess Club
    Band
    Audiovisual Club
    Astronomy Club
    Art Club
    Animation

    ALCUIN COLLEGE

    Ballet and Classical Ballet
    Yoga
    Yearbook
    Student Council
    Scouting
    Science Club
    School newspaper
    Round Square
    Robotics club
    Radio club
    Poetry/Literature club
    Photography
    Paintball
    Outdoor Education
    Outdoor Club
    Online Magazine
    Musical theatre/Opera
    Math Club
    Jazz Ensemble
    Habitat for Humanity
    Foreign Language Club
    Environmental Club
    Drama Club
    Debate Club
    Dance Club
    Computer Club
    Community Service
    Choir
    Chess Club
    Band
    Audiovisual Club
    Astronomy Club
    Art Club
    Animation


    What the school says

  • Financial Aid

    Grades eligible

    Grades eligible

    6 - 11

    Students on aid

    Students on aid

    15%

    0%

    Avg. aid package (annual)

    Avg. aid package (annual)

    $5,000

    $0

  • ADMISSIONS

    Admissions

    Admissions rate

    60%

    0%

    Day entry years

    K, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

    Boarding entry years

    Day admissions deadline

    Rolling

    Not available

    Boarding admissions deadline

    Not available

    Not available

    Interview required?

    Yes: grades K - 11

    Yes: grades K - 12

    SSAT required

    No

    No

    SSAT(out of province) required

    No

    No

    English Language Eligibility Certificate Required

    Yes: grades 7 - 11

    No

    Entrance exams required

    Yes: grades 1 - 11

    No

    Entrance essay required

    No

    No

    Application fee required

    No

    No

    Type of student school is looking for

    Type of student school is looking for

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    Curious, courageous, mission-appropriate, risk-takers, motivated to learn, well-rounded. We're looking for the sparkle in their eye - the girls who are keen to learn, enthusiastic. We're looking for the girl who plays rugby, the oboe, and loves ballet; the girl who loves math, engineering, and a good book. Our student body is varied and diverse - give us a call.

    What the school says

    What the school says

    MISS EDGAR'S & MISS CRAMP'S SCHOOL

    • Birth Certificate

    • Final Report Cards for Last Two Years

    • Junior School - Permanent Residency cards or Certificate of Eligibility or Study Visa or Parent Work Permit or Parent Diplomatic Status

    • Middle / Senior School - Certificate of Eligibility or Study Visa or Parent Work Permit or Parent Diplomatic Status

    • Candidate photo

    • $50 application fee

    • Admissions test and ‘Spend-A-Day’ on site

    • Family interview

    • International applicants Grade 8 through 10 must provide their IELTS/TOEFL scores.

    • All Grade 7 applicants must write the Common Admissions Test with Brisson Legris (mid-October). If inquiring after the deadline, please contact our Admissions Team.

    • In some cases, we require a copy of the child and parent's passports

  • NOTABLE ALUMNI

    Alumni

    information not available
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