AN OUR KIDS REPORT:Vancouver Independent School for Science and Technology vs. Carmel New Church School

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  • SCHOOL LOCATION

    Distance From

    Map

    Address

    Address

    #200 - 1490 W Broadway, Vancouver, British Columbia, V6H 4E8, Canada

    40 Chapel Hill Drive, Kitchener, Ontario, N2R 1N2, Canada

  • SCHOOL OVERVIEW

    Basics

    Basics

    Founded

    2022

    1892

    Enrolment

    40

    40

    Grades

    8 to 12

    JK to 8

    Gender

    Coed

    Coed

    Living arrangements

    Day

    Day

    Language of instruction

    English

    English

    Faith Based

    School focus

    Science and technology

    Academic

    Developmental Priorities

    Balanced
    Equal emphasis is placed on a balance of priorities: intellectual, emotional, social and physical cultivation.
    Intellectual
    The goal is to cultivate "academically strong, creative and critical thinkers, capable of exercising rationality, apprehending truth, and making aesthetic distinctions."
    Balanced
    Equal emphasis is placed on a balance of priorities: intellectual, emotional, social and physical cultivation.

    Academics

    Academics

    Curriculum

    Progressive

    Traditional

    Curriculum pace

    Accelerated
    The main curriculum accelerates beyond the pace of the provincial one; ALL students do the work of OLDER public-school peers in tangible and measurable ways. This accelerated pace is maintained by the teachers and school, (through textbook selection, topic selection, grading, assignment standards and expectations, etc).
    Standard-enriched
    Broadly-speaking, the main curriculum -- like that of most schools -- paces the provincially-outlined one. This pace is steady and set by the teachers and school. The curriculum might still be enriched in various ways: covering topics more in-depth and with more vigor than the provincial one, or covering a broader selection of topics.

    Academic culture

    Rigorous
    A school with a “rigorous” academic culture places a high value on academic performance, and expects their students to do the same. This does not mean the school is uncaring, unsupportive, or non-responsive -- far from it. A school can have a rigorous academic culture and still provide excellent individual support. It does mean, however, the school places a particular emphasis on performance -- seeking the best students and challenging them to the fullest extent -- relative to a normal baseline. High expectations and standards – and a challenging yet rewarding curriculum – are the common themes here. Keep in mind this classification is more relevant for the older grades: few Kindergarten classrooms, for example, would be called “rigorous”.
    Supportive
    A school with a “supportive” academic culture focuses more on process than short-term outcomes: academic performance is a welcomed side-benefit, but not the driving focus. This does not mean the school lacks standards, or has low expectations for its students: a school can have a supportive academic culture and still light the fire of ambition in its students. It does mean, however, the school provides a less intensive culture than schools with a “rigorous” academic classification, and is focused more simply on instilling a love of learning and life-long curiosity.

    Avg. Class Size

    15 to 20

    6 to 12

    Special needs support

    Gifted learner support

    In-class adaptations

    Preschool/K curriculum

    Play-based
    Play-based programs are the most common type of preschool and Kindergarten, and are founded on the belief young children learn best through play. Largely open-ended and minimally structured, play-based programs aim to develop social skills and a love of attending school. “Pre-academic” skills are taught, but in a more indirect way than at, say, an Academic program: through children playing in different “stations” set up around the classroom, which children choose on their own volition. Stations often contain an indirect lesson or developmental goal. Play-based classrooms are highly social and active.

    Tuition

    Tuition

    Day Tuition

    $1 to $23,400

    Boarding Tuition

    Financial aid (FA)

    Yes

    No

    Students on FA

    70%

    0%

    Eligible grades for FA

    8 to 12

    None

    Median FA package size

    $8,000

    $0

    Enrollment

    Enrollment

    Avg. enrollment per grade

    8

    4

    Percent in boarding

    0%

    0%

    Admissions

    Admissions

    Admissions rate

    0%

    0%

    Day entry years

    Boarding entry years

    Day admissions deadline

    Rolling

    Rolling

    Boarding admissions deadline

    Not available

    Not available

    Interview required?

    Yes: grades 8 - 12

    Yes: grades JK - 8

    SSAT required

    No

    No

  • OUR PERSPECTIVE

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    Our Take

    Our Take

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    Vancouver Independent School for Science and Technology (VISST) is a tech-heavy high school where all teachers are PhDs and UBC professors. Learning is project-based and follows the B.C. curriculum at an accelerated rate in which both the sciences and humanities are taught at a challenging pace. Currently, the school is admitting Grade 8 and 9 students, with more grades, and computer science is taught from Grade 8. Fun is deeply woven into the programming, creating an environment where students are excited to learn. and learning new things is not the only metric for success—creating a learning environment where students are excited to learn is key. The school respects students’ capabilities and time, and it clearly communicates goals to each student and for each project. VISST has a flexible tuition model that accounts for each family’s financial situation and resources. 

     

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    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    The Christian programming and curriculum offered at Carmel New Church School educates kids holistically while protecting their innocence and promoting spiritual and academic growth. This small, peaceful school runs from Junior Kindergarten to Grade 8 and prides itself on cultivating the development of unique talents, creativity, and high academic achievement. Extracurricular activities include musical theatre, choir, the school newspaper, photography, and a wide range of sports. Staff share the belief that a happy and productive life begins by developing an affirmative outlook toward God and through charitable conduct with one another. These values are reflected in the school’s programs and ensure that it provides a cohesive community in which kids learn, play, and form close and lasting friendships.

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  • INSIDER PERSPECTIVES

    Written Reviews

    Written Reviews

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    "The academic program at Carmel was excellent."
    Ayla Van Der Meulen - Alumnus   (Jan 24, 2024)
    My best school experiences were at Carmel New Church School. The maximum class size I was in was ten... View full review

    "When my son wakes up on Saturday morning, he is so disappointed that school is not open during the weekend."
    Aishwarya Balan - Parent   (Mar 27, 2024)
    My son loves his school. When he wakes up Saturday morning he is so disappointed that school is not ... View full review

  • School’s perspective

    Who are you, as a school?

    Who are you, as a school?

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    "Vancouver Independent School for Science and Technology (VISST) is Vancouver's first & only dedicated STEM high school, offering the full BC curriculum with accelerated/enriched STEM taught via a mix of traditional methods and project based learning. VISST isn't just for the "math whiz" type -- you will find all sorts of students at our school, united by a shared curiosity and passion for learning. We believe science and technology fundamentals are important for any path our students might take after high school."

    • Classes start at 10:00am.
    • A progressive tuition model that accounts for each family’s circumstances.
    • Computer science starting from Grade 8.
    • An integrated curriculum where teachers forge connections between subjects.
    • Transparent and open communication between the school, students, and parents.
    • Students take responsibility for, and take care of, the facilities and each other.
    • Fun as an explicit goal of the school - learning new things is not the only metric for success.
    • Working outside the school bubble: our students will create value for the broader community.
    • A learning environment where all students want to be there and are excited to learn.
    • Transparent communication of goals: students won’t be left wondering, "Why am I learning this?"

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    "Established in 1892, Carmel New Church School offers a century of experience in a modern facility and rural campus. Our Christian school educates children holistically, protects their innocence, and promotes spiritual and academic growth. Customized programs inspire and support the development of unique talents, creativity, and high academic achievement. We believe that a happy and productive life begins by developing an affirmative outlook towards God and through charitable conduct with one another."

    • Ontario Curriculum enriched with Christian values
    • Low Teacher-to-Student ratios for more personalized teaching
    • Weekly Chapel services and daily worship in the classroom
    • Classes capped at 12
    • Ample greenspace for outdoor learning opportunities
    • Forest Playground with outdoor classrooms space, and nature inspired playspaces
    • Individual Laptops from 1-8
    • Part time Kindergarten program
    • Experienced, passionate, professional teachers
    • Supportive, connected community

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    What do you do differently and uniquely well?

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    "VISST is a reimagining of high school and differs from other schools in several ways. We ar a STEM school with enriched and accelerated STEM offerings, delivered by experts in our respective fields. VISST deeply values student buy-in and ownership. We include students in important decisions such as which teachers to hire. VISST staff are open and transparent with students, and avoid reinforcing power dynamics. Teachers and students are all just people, on a journey of self-improvement together."

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    "Our school seeks to provide a spiritual overlay to all the learning that takes place. Each day includes worship, and each subject is infused with Christian principles. Teachers and staff, working together with parents, can explore the ways that God would have students conduct themselves. Education for usefulness is a core theme."

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    What tradeoffs has your school made to serve families in this way?

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    Information not available

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    What key junctures in your school's history have most shaped its present?

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    Information not available

    Array

    What type of student is a good fit for your school?

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    Information not available

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    Under what conditions would you advise a family against choosing your school?

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

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    To your knowledge, why do families choose your school over others?

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    "Families are drawn to VISST for different reasons: the STEM curriculum, the way students are treated and respected, the project-based learning, the like-minded peers. One of VISST's key competitive advantages is our teachers. In BC, it is not required that a teacher have a degree in a subject in order to teach it. In contrast, VISST teachers are highly trained experts who buy into VISST's philosophy and values. We give our teachers the time and resources to shine and do their life's best work."

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    "Parents choose us because of the faith-based curriculum that teaches loving the Lord and the neighbour on a daily basis. They see their child benefit from the personalized attention that comes with small class sizes and they develop closer relationships with their peers."

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    How would you characterize your school's image amongst the public?

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    Information not available

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    What aspect of your school is underappreciated?

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    "VISST's culture is sometimes underrated. In a word, we are a STEM school -- this features in our school's name, even. But in sentence, we are a STEM school with an utterly different school culture. At VISST students are first class citizens. Students call teachers by their first names, share social spaces with teachers, interview teacher candidates during hiring, and participate in school governance. Students truly feel a part of VISST, and in doing so they build justified self-confidence."

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    "Since we are a Christian school, we encourage students to follow the Lord’s Word, We teach students to love and respect our Creator and all His gifts to us, including nature and one another. We believe in providing quality education and using that education to serve the Lord and our neighbours."

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    What might families find surprising about your school?

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    "Some families think of VISST as a school for "math genius" types. While we do provide an excellent environment for students who excel in STEM subjects, VISST was created for a broader audience. We measure success by how much a student grows in 5 years, not by where they start or end up. All students at VISST enjoy STEM, are curious about it, and are capable of succeeding, but math doesn't have to be your strongest suit for you to attend and thrive at VISST. We also welcome "artsy" types!"

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    "Since the school backs onto fields and forest, classes are often taken outside to learn and see their lessons in action. We are currently developing some of our outdoor space for outdoor classrooms and nature-based playspaces, as well as a garden area."

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    What improvements or changes has your school made recently?

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    Information not available

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    How will your school change in the next 5 years?

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    Information not available

  • SCHOOL LEADERSHIP

    Message from school leadership

    Message from school leadership

    Welcome to the Vancouver Independent School for Science and Technology (VISST)! Before founding VISST, I was a computer science professor at UBC where I taught over 25 courses to thousands of students. At UBC I made two key observations. One, that university students are much more comfortable with well-defined short-term tasks than with ambiguity and long-term planning; this, I concluded, is likely a product of our current high school system. And two, I observed firsthand the insatiable demand for computer science at UBC and all universities around the world, which is well beyond our capacity to provide it. This is unfortunate, I felt, because kids are more than capable of learning computer science. Combining these observations with my teaching experience, I decided to create VISST along with a fantastic team. VISST is a non-profit high school in Vancouver that aims to address the struggles I observed in university students and the lack of computer science in high schools. 

    Our pedagogical approach is to combine project-based learning with rigorous fundamentals. The former builds teamwork skills, long-term planning, and comfort with ambiguity. The latter is an essential component to STEM excellence. An overarching theme of our educational philosophy is to have students interface with the real world as much as possible. Whether it is publishing an article, interpreting data from the news, or partnering with a community organization during a project, real-world experiences are motivating and educational. We would consider it a failure on our part if our students are left wondering, "Why am I learning this?"

    We look forward to having you explore VISST. Welcome to the VISST community.

    I believe in educating the heart as well as the mind. Through lessons from the Word and a caring, supportive Christian community, we give students a strong foundation to build quality character. We take advantage of our spacious grounds to take learning beyond the classroom and keep children engaged.

     

    I am thankful to be part of CNCS and for the opportunity to teach and help children grow into themselves. As principal, I work closely with passionate educators and with loving parents to ensure students’ needs are met and that they are given the best opportunities to encourage their talents.

     

  • EXTRACURRICULARS

    Competitive

    Comp.

    Recreational

    Rec.

    Competitive

    Comp.

    Recreational

    Rec.

    Badminton

    Baseball

    Basketball

    Canoeing/Kayaking

    Cricket

    Cross-country skiing

    Cycling

    Downhill skiing

    Equestrian

    Fencing

    Field Hockey

    Figure Skating

    Football

    Golf

    Gymnastics

    Ice Hockey

    Ice Skating

    Lacrosse

    Martial Arts

    Mountain biking

    Racquet Ball

    Rowing

    Rugby

    Running

    Sailing

    Skateboarding

    Snowboarding

    Soccer

    Softball

    Squash

    Swimming

    Tennis

    Track & Field

    Volleyball

    Weightlifting

    Wrestling

    Archery

    Curling

    Ultimate


    Clubs Offered

    Clubs offered

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    Ballet and Classical Ballet
    Yoga
    Yearbook
    Student Council
    Scouting
    Science Club
    School newspaper
    Round Square
    Robotics club
    Radio club
    Poetry/Literature club
    Photography
    Paintball
    Outdoor Education
    Outdoor Club
    Online Magazine
    Musical theatre/Opera
    Math Club
    Jazz Ensemble
    Habitat for Humanity
    Foreign Language Club
    Environmental Club
    Drama Club
    Debate Club
    Dance Club
    Computer Club
    Community Service
    Choir
    Chess Club
    Band
    Audiovisual Club
    Astronomy Club
    Art Club
    Animation

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    Ballet and Classical Ballet
    Yoga
    Yearbook
    Student Council
    Scouting
    Science Club
    School newspaper
    Round Square
    Robotics club
    Radio club
    Poetry/Literature club
    Photography
    Paintball
    Outdoor Education
    Outdoor Club
    Online Magazine
    Musical theatre/Opera
    Math Club
    Jazz Ensemble
    Habitat for Humanity
    Foreign Language Club
    Environmental Club
    Drama Club
    Debate Club
    Dance Club
    Computer Club
    Community Service
    Choir
    Chess Club
    Band
    Audiovisual Club
    Astronomy Club
    Art Club
    Animation

  • Financial Aid

    Grades eligible

    Grades eligible

    8 - 12

    Students on aid

    Students on aid

    70%

    0%

    Avg. aid package (annual)

    Avg. aid package (annual)

    $8,000

    $0

  • ADMISSIONS

    Admissions

    Admissions rate

    0%

    0%

    Day entry years

    Boarding entry years

    Day admissions deadline

    Rolling

    Rolling

    Boarding admissions deadline

    Not available

    Not available

    Interview required?

    Yes: grades 8 - 12

    Yes: grades JK - 8

    SSAT required

    No

    No

    SSAT(out of province) required

    No

    No

    Entrance exams required

    No

    No

    Entrance essay required

    Yes: grades 8 - 12

    No

    Application fee required

    No

    No

    Type of student school is looking for

    Type of student school is looking for

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    We are looking for students who want to be challenged and who demonstrate the potential to meet those challenges. A strong applicant will also demonstrate that they understand what VISST is about and that they would really like to be a part of this unique school and community. As a STEM school, we are looking for students with an interest in STEM, but this does not have to be your only interest! On the contrary, we welcome students with a broad range of interests; a diverse student body will enrich the experience for everyone. You will find that VISST innovates, and employs amazing teachers, in all subject areas.

    What the school says

    What the school says

    VANCOUVER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

    See https://www.visst.ca/admissions for admissions information.

    CARMEL NEW CHURCH SCHOOL

    Please visit our website www.carmelnewchurchschool.org for our admissions process and next steps

  • NOTABLE ALUMNI

    Alumni

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